Battery powered EV bus bursts into flames - There is no way to put the fire out -

People have been sold a fantasy about what to expect from electric vehicles. Lithium-ion batteries fulfill that fantasy to a degree BUT, have too many negatives to make them feasible on a large scale. They are not recyclable, Lithium is mined in politically-unstable countries, they are prone to fires, and they are not fault tolerant. *IMO* we need to return to LEAD-ACID BATTERIES as the prime power for vehicles AND readjust people's expectations of what battery-powered vehicles can do. Lead-Acid batteries are 100% recyclable, the technology is mature and proven, the materials can be sourced domestically, and are very fault tolerant. I'm sure that Lead-Acid batteries can be improved upon but, they will always be heavy and that's just something the buyer will have to accept. Lithium-ion is good for small devices and power tools and that should be it.

@InfiniteMushroom: That video of the flames coming out of the bus's burning battery bank - it's too much... It's a fucking nightmare. Lead-acid batteries ARE good, but their limited energy density and large size and great weight, when compared to the better lithium batteries, make the lead acids a poor second - in terms of long range transport etc. Without delving into the history too much, I recall that people were making lead acid batteries in 1859 or something... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....Lead%E2%80%93acid_ba and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle .

@InfiniteMushroom: People are researching other metal batteries like sodium and such like, instead of lithium.

@Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson: The relatively ancient technology of lead-acid makes it perfect going forward. The future will be one of rapid descent; not improvement or higher tech. It will become mandatory to recover forgotten, expired, or mature technologies as we fall into the Abyss. Steam requires far less technical and industrial input to create prime movers of that type. Lead-acid, same thing. Expectations will have to drop accordingly. It will take political action to force the predatory Top 1% to share in the collapse and force them to get reacquatainted with real horsepower (animal power) for personal transportation.

@Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson: Elemental sodium is DANGEROUS. Again, we have these exotic batteries that hide incredible costs and depend on unreliable supply chains.

@InfiniteMushroom: Sodium is dangerous but in form used inside the batteries, they don't catch fire, they are safe to handle and store and although wayh bigger and heavier, the raw materials are basically dirt cheap and are abundant. https://thenextweb.com/news/3-....reasons-why-sodium-i