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How Amish Preserve Meat Without Refrigeration

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Published on 02 Oct 2024 / In Film & Animation

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

Meat Drying - where the rot stops in regards to drying the meat.


Me:

So 1000 grams of raw beef, with a water content of 850 grams per kilogram, could theoretically weigh 150 grams when absolutely dry. At what point or weight of drying meat, does all bacterial activity in or on the meat cease?

( Chat GPT can be an absolute cunt of moronic stupidity at times )

Chat GPT:

( All the bullshit eliminated )

To completely eliminate bacterial activity, the total weight after drying could be closer to around 200 grams or less ( edited ) getting below that water activity level is key for ensuring all bacterial activity ceases.

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So you can slice the meat finely and preserve with sugar / salt and or hot / cold smoking / cooking etc., AND then dry it = much better.

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sauger1001
sauger1001 3 months ago

It's helpful to know, since we'll probably end up doing these things as well; if meat is available, instead of only bugs. The best part is, as The Bible says: "If you do not work, you shall not eat" (2Thes. 3:10). One's entitlements shall DIE/DEI with them.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

I am looking at the boiling point of water under vacuum, which is 2.3 Kpa or ( 0.34 PSI ) - where as atmospheric pressure is say 100 Kpa... (~15 PSI atmospheric) but instead of boiling off the water under vacuum, I thought simply, by salting the meat and dropping the pressure to ~30 Kpa or 5 PSI and causing FAST evaporation or drying of the meat, might be a good way to do it..... BUT ChatGPT does not have the resources to draw upon to calculate the rates of evaporation and so it's answers are complete shit - in this instance. However using a heat exchanger kept at 1*C, will remove all water from the air, and this could be used to dry meat in bulk... in a recurculating atmosphere...

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

See comment above - had to work ChatGPT over.... to get a clear answer.

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sauger1001
sauger1001 3 months ago

@Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson: Sometimes High Tech is overrated. JMO.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@sauger1001: Chat GPT can at times, be very useful, BUT you really need to have a fair understanding of the subject, and to be able to see through the circular and lost logic in the answers, and to be able to challenge the bullshit - either by asking better and refined questions or fucking the damned thing off.... e.g. what is the maximum diameter and pitch, of a 3 bladed propellor, that will produce a flow of 30 Kmh or 8.3 meters per second, using 4 HP or 3080 W? - Then it will say, 0.7 meters in diameter... Well that is what goes under a large fishing boat, that has like 250 - 350 HP.... and all the really SMALL outboards (and similar) have like a 6 or 8 " / 160mm - 200mm diameter propellor... So knowing the none too exact basics - kind of fucks Chat GPT right up... many of it's answers are nebulous crap.... This is sort of the sort of up to this size boat that would come with a 70cm propeller........ and the next image is of a 4 HP outboard motor and it's TINY propeller... https://www.southerntitleliens.....com/wp-content/uplo --- https://dulasboats.co.uk/cdn/s....hop/products/4.png?v

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