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Making Secession Work

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Published on 27 Aug 2022 / In People & Blogs
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Dutch Cobbler
Dutch Cobbler 2 years ago

Wrong.

Repealing Roe showed us something we already knew but so few could articulate: women and liberals are powerless except for the power we permit them to have. We are enslaved by forces that we enable. Take away welfare programs, take away the lobby, take money out of politics; find your spine and refuse to kowtow or compromise.

Congratulations, you've found another way to collapse the carcinogen of liberals and feminists.

Roe V Wade was overturned, a token move except where trigger states enacted bans, and what did almighty feminists do? Pitched a fit? Refuse sex to their orbiters and cucks? Tantrum, wail, and whine? They have no power except what's given to them, same with Washington. If people, businesses, communities rejected the lock-downs instead of going along to get along while enjoying their bread and circuses we'd be better off right now. There won't be an uprising, the brats will hear 'NO' and pitch a fit, and things will fall back into place.

You can't go home twice, but balkanizing America to save America (or just your own asses) is not the least bit sensible.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

County sized states....that is exactly Switzerland..

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

3 things needed for stability and freedom
SECESSION
ONLY STATE MILITIA (ALL MEN SERVE 18-35, LONGER FOR OFFICERS)
DIRECT DEMOCRACY (PUBLIC VOTING)

There is never mob rule if the minority can secede...

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KEEPER
KEEPER 2 years ago

did i just hear him say jewmerica?

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Eggy Noggy
Eggy Noggy 2 years ago

Brother Nathaniel has been around for a long time. Openly calling out jews the entire time. He was saying this on youtube before they pushed him off. he was also threatended for his honesty. Glad hes here on mgtow.tv.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 2 years ago

@Eggy_Noggy: yeah, i'm not against the guy, i have seen his videos from time to time while on this website, but i never payed his channel any real attention till now, at first i thought he was a jew lol, because at first i didn't know how to tell from his looks, but clearly i know now.

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Eggy Noggy
Eggy Noggy 2 years ago

@KEEPER: No. He WAS a jew. He went full on against the grain. Kinda like Bobby Fischer. And they tried to take him out a few years back. he did a video where he took Malcolm X's speech about the Jews and totally agreed with it as a former jew - Point for point. it was a legendary video and it got him in so much trouble. But it was so accurate. Was not a big fan of Malcolm X but what he said about jews in his speech was fucking RIGHT ON THE MONEY!

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KEEPER
KEEPER 2 years ago

@Eggy_Noggy: i will just take your word for it.

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FL_Steve
FL_Steve 2 years ago

Based. This is the first time time I've seen anyone outline what's needed for secession.

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FL_Steve
FL_Steve 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: I like it. But the number one priority should be no voting rights for women! Or else we will be back to square one with welfare, parasitism, mass immigration etc. I remember there was that YT channel John Mark where they were supposedly writing a new constitution but it turned out to be a fed op.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: Just copy the Swiss con-federacy, been working for 780 years. Its pride that prevents you from copying other systems that proved the test of time

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: states, should be folk bases, in the US and Europe nation states you got all kinds of ethnicities spead out over borders.. so that is why secession is a key tool in the Swiss confederacy...States (Swiss Kantons) need constant re-alignment. Some Kantons don't allow for secret votes (so dead ppl can't vote) you also need to be armed during the vote (so nobody can force you to vote a certain way). Also giving out a Swiss citizenship requires a public vote in some Kantons.... there is no head of state, it is officially the 7 headed presidential council, it has no power since the powerpyramid is inverted. Gun ownership is mandatory, and there is lifelong service (max age 50 for officers and higher) . This only state militia no federal army (so nobody can stop secession). Also most important is citizen veto at all levels (the population can kill laws at will and it does). Swiss citizens vote 7x per month on local laws and 4x per year on confederate laws...itsnt mob rule, since ppl seceede into their own state if is abused. If you want to implement it on US scale you would end up with 3000 states..., armed to the teeth and neutral.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: the 5 biggest pharmaceutical companies are Swiss, Nestlé la Rouche, the biggest utility company in the world ( bigger the GE) is ABB a Swiss/Swedish combine. I am not even tlaking about the Banks like Credit Suisse or UBS.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

The ones with the power are the ones controlling the biggest guns, that is why Switzerland has no dedicated army, there is no career military every , no tool for the politicians to force corperations to pay lobby money. All men serve from 18-35 , and officers serve longer, (up to 55). These ppl have normal jobs too, .. now citizens are shit ppl too, so to prevent abuse by mob rule, there I always secession,... in this environment the body politic cannot be corrupted by anything, ....

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

You make a good point of moving factories to cheaper countries, but it does not happen here because 80% of the economy are family owned bizz (Most Swiss have a Master degree in Mechanical engineering) and they make high quality parts for aerospace and automotive industry. The economy is not structured as a few big large multinationals and large low educated workforce.. Also you need to understand college is supercheap (ETH is the 6th best in the world and cost 1800 usd year). Switzerland is the richest country in Europe PP and we pay the highest salaries.... but it's tiresome, we can't let our guard down economicly or politically. We don't enjoy sports like you do in the USA. No bread and games,... (we do have fun, but it's with family and friends, and folkish celebrations).

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

You are wrong about Switzerland being somehow lucky, no, it's peacefull because it's population is armed to the teeth and neutral, yes ppl don't like jews, they are tolerated and many jews do try to subvert with feminism or migration, but direct democracy stops any shit in its tracks..... the only big problem is we gave women voting rights in 1971.... we hope the EU will go to shit first so we can revert this.....meanwhile we have to play "real politiek"... and keep the tanks and guns greased.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: fractured, A superstate like the USA should not exist in the first place, maybe as a defense alliance, remember current day Germany is an artificial construct previously existing as many small different states, but Busmark changed that to an empirium

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

In Switzerland the ppl are the final stop, if ppl fail, maybe one or 2 states will,fail (think liberal shit) but the rest of the USA will be ok,....also no voting for ppl who refuse conscription, or are too disabled to serve...also every man gets full police training, no exceptions, so the difference between a citizen and a policemen is licensing only.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

In Switzerland the ppl are the final stop, if ppl fail, maybe one or 2 states will,fail (think liberal shit) but the rest of the Confederacy will be ok,....also no voting for ppl who refuse conscription, or are too disabled to serve...also every man gets full police training, no exceptions, so the difference between a citizen and a policemen is licensing only.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

I am typing on my smartphone, I can't turn off the stupid autocomplete, stupid typos.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: mandayory service means also mandatory fitness requirements

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: Yes Physical ed was mandatory in the country I grew up (Netherlands) up till age 18 (before uni), also there was school camping in the Ardennes fores , where we had to march a whole day with camping gear from one camping site to another (mixed female/male groups) fun as hell and bonds people from all social classes

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: the federal charter is a promise..not so much a framework...second there is a new confedrate charter 150 years ago...this happened after the Swiss civil war....(confedrates won)..... show me a googledrive link....its a hash so u wont dox yourself.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

" FFS, not even Switzerland can get away from this Jew / Feminist shit! Thats because we are landlocked, so we screwed economicly since everybody surrounding us is on the same team (European Union). If we only had a harbor we could have said to the rest of Europe *GO EAT A DICK*... but we landlocked

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: It was last amended in 1999, (amendments happen all the time through direct democracy) ,.... first feminist protest (lol) was in 2018 (doing this from heart), yeah we landlocked so we do kung fu bend with the wind for the EU not to invade us or some crazy shit..... Also note, there is very little social security for women (pregnancy leave is the lowest in Europe ), so we need to slow down this bullshit till the rest of the Fembot world collapses

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: for a preamble not bad,

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: maybe we should research all constitutions, I know the United Provinces of the Netherlands were a republic (militarily defeated by France in 1672) , Geneva is a republic within the confederacy of Switzerland, we need to set up a dossier system and check what worked , what worked very well and what worked so so.... The Roman Republic was a nice start, but it became ineffective because of filibuster and Senator veto

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

My perfect ideal would be a modern day Sparta, exemplary warrior caste based on good genetics, these days should not be a problem with all the modern DNA scans we can do and select for most healthy individuals

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: you forgot the boer war (they where farmers) the Swiss obliteration of 2 invading Austrian armies (farm boys) .. the old Roman republic (where most free citizens where farmers) where the soldiers could only be free citizens.. etc etc... creation of a dedicated military is the surest way of loosing your freedom.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@InfiniteMushroom: exactly only state militia is the way Swiss defense is organized..... I would also add that general voting rights only go to men who serve.....if you were wounded in a war you keep your voting rights, if you where born invalid then you don't get to vote, ..simple.

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