My Thoughts on MGTOW - Anti-MGTOW

Also man tbh Porn really isn't that big of a deal. Too much of anything is bad, that's just common sense...

Most of the things youve talked about, have been talked to death really in the community... I'll tldr and say yeah I definitely disagree with pretty much most of your video. = /
The only thing I really agree with is that some of the things spouted should be taken with a large grain of salt, but for the most part they're pretty much kinda spot on.

Here are my main gripes tho. (Also skipping your politics. I honestly just don't feel like talking about it. = .=)


So on the MGTOW movement being negative. I just flat out disagree because for me it's been largely positive in my mostly negative life. I suppose it's just how you take the message and I took it well. I'm confident to say sadly if I would've never discovered MGTOW I'd be dead most likely. Most of my life was me thinking I need to find the right girl/building a career with them and thinking THATS IT! THATS ALL LIFE IS! which led me to being used/cheated on left and right or having female friends betray me without warning, no matter where I moved to my experience was pretty much the same. Until I discovered MGTOW.

Alot of guys I see Actually have trouble focusing on just theirselves. It's honestly really shocking the amount of guys I run across that can only think about women. and those guys are miserable! They don't realize that Women aren't the end all be all. They don't realize any of the consequences of chosing the wrong partner. They don't realize the consequences of having a kid with someone just because of that vague feeling of love when they could've avoided it by using their head. If anything thats doing way more damage to society than the MGTOW movement.

On MGTOW trying to get all men to join their movement. Not really. Maybe the more Hardcore MGTOW Monks I guess? But not really. If anything I see the movement as it giving you information and letting you do with it what you will. Yeah they'll tell you "You probably shouldn't do that." But they aren't going to force you to not do whatever you want. If you want a gf. You can still have one. We'd just advise you not to move in with them or something. If you want to have a relationship with a girl you still can. Kinda rambling now but point is Nah.

Now on to MRA Groups/Activist in general. They are to put it politely... Ineffective.. Even in their heyday they basically got mostly nothing done.
If you want a better lesson in futility out of any groups that are part of the Manosphere. They'd definitely fit the bill.
More men would absolutely be in the MRA movement if they were actually effective and not ridiculed and not taken seriously by like almost everyone in society (politicians, the general public, etc) that's just the harsh truth though. That the MRA movement is a bust unfortunately despite long they've been around.

Honestly most MGTOW wouldnt mind getting married or doing more for their community if things just weren't so bad. But they are. So I honestly don't know what to tell you man. You can say they're being defeatist but I just feel that they're being smart and if you're gonna shame men for being smart. Im just going to see your "Anti MGTOW" movement as nothing more than wanting be a Contrarian/Semi Tradcon tbh because that's what you sound like. Not trying to be a dick. That's just what you sound like.

Anyway have a good night yo.

Well that was different. Good luck.