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The Morning Constitutional: 5/24/2023

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Published on 24 May 2023 / In News & Politics

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Darthtickles
Darthtickles 2 years ago

00:30

That's exactly what these 'Russian separatist' attacks are for.

The 3 northeastern oblasts still have their pre-war border with Russia. Russia would love it if Ukraine sent standard troops over the border here, as the Russians could use it as a cover for any future escalations that they desired. This border is currently defended by a line on a map, and the only way the Ukrainians can force the Russians to commit troops to the border without giving the Russians cover for future escalations is to dress their Ukrainian soldiers up as Russian separatist fighters.

Pretty standard ruse de guerre stuff. Not likely to have much impact, but low cost and little risk or downside. Not worth much more than a "huhn, how about that" in the grand scheme of the war.

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chicken_on_a_raft
chicken_on_a_raft 2 years ago

So:
- Saudi Arabia needs oil to be $80 so they can balance their budget, even though it was $60 all through Trump’s presidency.
- The recession is fake and the UK said it’s fine, but oil prices are simultaneously crushing the economy.
- It wasn’t a mild winter because there was exactly one blizzard in December.

TFM talks like ChatGPT. It all sounds convincing, but there’s no cognition.

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Turdpool
Turdpool 2 years ago

My life sucks. I put on a bunch of makeup and a wig, and I just looked like a glam rocker, not like a female. I went on a chatroom and no one thought I was a bitch. Curse my masculine appearance. My face is shaped the way it is. Oh ducking well. I guess maybe I can get better at it, or maybe I have to live as a man.
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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

Aaaand right on cue,.we talking about jews again....

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Porky
Porky 2 years ago

So, am I understand correctly.

If Russia made full scale invasion on Ukraine territory - its ok, Putin was provoked by bad NATO
If Ukraine did the same just once with 50 people - its terrorism and literally Hitler

Does TFM just enjoy sucking Putin dick, or its his part time job?

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Lady Dimis Husbando
Lady Dimis Husbando 2 years ago

Also, Putin doesn't want nukes on his border so he is totally justified in invading Ukaraine who apparently doesn't matter if they don't want nukes on their border either...

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Porky
Porky 2 years ago

@Lady Dimis Husbando: Also, Putin can threats nuclear action in his speeches directly - but NATO want a nuclear war. Because reasons.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

Last time Russia parked nukes in Cuba, USA went almost thermonuclear,...but the USA can park rockets in Poland (Nato country).....must be eating all that plastic shit you call food that is rotting your brain

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@mgtow_user551: flight time of a nuke from Poland to Moscow is lot shorter then Havanna Washington (Cuban missile crisis).. Ofc the Americans never threatened nuclear war over that like Putin is doing now........ooh wait...

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Porky
Porky 2 years ago

@Lucifer333: You probably has proofs for it, arent you - since I only could found couple of articles 'Kinda maybe we can talk about it but its bad idea'? AlsoI speak Russian, and I never ever heard this point even from russian goverment media itself. Because of my first language I kinda consume russian goverment media whatever I want it or not. But I never heard this stuff about Poland nukes from anyone but TFM. Its just funny how TFM kinda build his own alternative universe where he just assume contries has goals they aren't even declaring themself. Probably what's the reason why his portfolio goes down 40% - shit happenned if you live in magic land

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@mgtow_user551: Proof? wtf, like the Cuban Missile Crises never happened? Nato "suggested" to place rockets in Poland in 2015, Ukraine "proposed" to the Americans to do the same thing in 2017.. Now ofc there are no Nukes in Poland (yet) that was only talk and should never be taken seriously, because Presidents of nation states run their mouth about nukes all the fucking tilme for no reason. Go suck some cuck/beta's dick "agent Smith"

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Porky
Porky 2 years ago

@Lucifer333: I dont care. I just found it hillarious. This whole 'Subjective morality monk style' bullshit. But hey guys, do you what Ukraine is the most terrible piece of shit ever existed on Earth. They only fight Russia because of inner evil in their hearts. Also, do you know they are evil and retarded. Yes, evil and retarded. And also terrorists. Morality is subjective of course, if you are not Ukraine.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 2 years ago

@mgtow_user551: you cant take the L on not knowing what Nato proppesed, because you are an ignorant fuck and tries some sophist bullshit to cover up your ignorance and sloth (called you out on that one)

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Florian
Florian 2 years ago

@mgtow_user551: Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, stop simping for it, ignorant American fuck.

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Darthtickles
Darthtickles 2 years ago

ya this was kind of a bizarre take by tfm. war is war. once you cross that line, the game is on. to act like russian civilians arent fair game is pretty naive and inconsistent. i personally prefer it when people make more effort to just call balls and strikes as they are, but i guess tfm never promised that he was neutral in all things.

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Lady Dimis Husbando
Lady Dimis Husbando 2 years ago

@Florian: Zelensky and his government are just as corrupt as Putin and his government. The Ukranian/Russian people are fine. The governments are the problem... I wonder why? Who (((nose)))? I just find it ironic how TFM thinks it's ok for Russia to have nukes and fuck whatever all their border countries think, but no one else is allowed to have any nukes because Russia says so...

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Darthtickles
Darthtickles 2 years ago

@Lady Dimis Husbando: I would have had zero issue with the US/EU overthrowing the corrupt Russian-backed Ukrainian regime and installing their own corrupt Western-backed Ukrainian regime IF they had the capacity to do it successfully and without bloodshed. The problem is that they clearly weren't capable of doing that. Instead they were willing to let Ukraine be destroyed while impoverishing the West and gambling with nuclear war. People with power exercise that power to their benefit. What I expect from the West is checks on that power so that greedy incompetents can't make graveyards of countries while selling out their own citizens.

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Crunshy Numbers
Crunshy Numbers 2 years ago

@Darthtickles: You are aware that the current regime in Ukraine is corrupt and installed by the West & Ukrainian Oligarchs (also pro West). IMHO, it would have been best if the West would have stayed out of the former Eastern block entirely, but they could leave their paws to themselves. If one thinks Russia is evil, well look at the US and others, they are equally evil. I just keep myself updated watching The Duran here and there. No point watching more politio-porn or getting rialed-up. -> "Go your own way"

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Darthtickles
Darthtickles 2 years ago

@Crunshy Numbers: yes, but they couldnt do it successfully or without war, as i said. the west successfully and (relatively) bloodlessly installs governments all the time. i dont think we should, but its our prerogative to do so. what we shouldn't be doing under any circumstances, however, is failing in our installation, destroying our target country and creating even greater risks and costs to ourselves through the resulting instability. all morality aside, it's the dangerous incompetence that i really care about.

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Crunshy Numbers
Crunshy Numbers 2 years ago

@Darthtickles: Or just leaving countries alone altogether, fixing things at home. This task would take 100y alone.

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