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Why Socrates Hated Democracy

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Published on 03 Dec 2022 / In Non-profits & Activism

We’re used to thinking hugely well of democracy. But interestingly, one of the wisest people who ever lived, Socrates, had deep suspicions of it. To buy books on philosopy and other themes from The School of Life, visit our online shop: https://goo.gl/mQYmze
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KEEPER
KEEPER 2 years ago  

What's so messed up about this, is that a democracy is founded in free speech, and they killed him for his free speech because they disagreed.

And he wasn't wrong.

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The Man Inside
The Man Inside 2 years ago

Nothing but grass for the cattle to feed on.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 2 years ago

@The Man Inside: I don't understand, what do you mean by this?

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The Man Inside
The Man Inside 2 years ago

@KEEPER: the people are the cows, the multitude of ideas are the grass that feed the cows.

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HairlessMonkey
HairlessMonkey 2 years ago

Every time someone engages me about politics I first ask them if they voted and then why they voted for a particular person. It almost always comes down to voting for what the nominee promised, how well spoken they are or looks . They say nothing about if the nominee has actual plans or mention their past accomplishments or voting record. These conversations are usually very short. :-) Me, I go online or the library and dig up what I can on anyone I might consider voting for. Unfortunately it sometimes comes down to the lesser of two morons. ¯\_㋡_/¯

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SolidSnake33
SolidSnake33 2 years ago

Democracy is founded on mob rule which will always supersede free speech when more people don't like what some men are saying. You're wrong when you say democracy was founded on free speech, it wasn't when you consider the other factors that work against it namely a mob of weak people.

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WMHarrison94
WMHarrison94 2 years ago

NO. They killed him because he would not lie and he was teaching NOT indoctrination the youth. There's a Platonic dialog completely dedicated to this, the Death of Socrates.

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WMHarrison94
WMHarrison94 2 years ago

Good video, but you are wrong. Solon created philosophy from the love of wisdom, sort of as life. Granted, Socrates and his cadre including Plato, Aristotle, and Xenophon (I may have misspelled his name) argued against Sophist who said things that sounded good. Solon created it along with Democratia, but Socrates got to see how "Democracy" played out especially after tyrants learned how to seize control. Solon had to leave Athens to breathe and traveled the known world, the Mediterranean World where he stumbled upon the Legend of Atlantis from the Egyptians. It's a small but true distinction.

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WMHarrison94
WMHarrison94 2 years ago

Hey, putting bitches and single moms on a tirade heading g into a storm on the way to Salmonis sounds like a good idea, just saying...

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SolidSnake33
SolidSnake33 2 years ago

Whoever the narrator is still gets it wrong because it isn't about education (which has been argued for decades in the form of progressive educational values and "making the case") it's about letting everyone vote and namely women who the more you educate them the worse everything gets. The more you empower and let women have a say the precipitously worse all of society is getting. When you have no stake in or authority commensurate with your level of responsibility over society (as only men can attain) you SHOULD NOT be voting.

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SolidSnake33
SolidSnake33 2 years ago

You know what was a civilized and technologically advanced society: Rome NOT Greece. Never let anyone lie to you and tell you that Greece was better simply because of democracy. Democracy is shit.
Fuck Greece and democracy. Fuck Democracy!

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WMHarrison94
WMHarrison94 2 years ago

Greece was a Panhellenic Congress of free city-states or "countries" with a common language and ancestry. They defined liberty: the right to: spend your money as you choose, worship whom you choose, and vote or pick your leaders and laws, not to mention declare war collectively.

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