Shoe on head - Opportunity missed for the manosphere?

Yuri Bezmenov - ]he useful idiots, the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of the Soviet socialist or Communist or whatever system, when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That’s why my KGB instructors specifically made the point: never bother with leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. [...] They serve a purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in the United States: all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not needed any more. They know too much. Some of them, when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist-Leninists come to power—obviously they get offended—they think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot.”




Me - Lets not make them our enemy

I take no woman in the west seriously when they get on a platform and claim to sympathize in any way with men's issues. It's a larp or a grift. All of them know the system is biased towards them and not one has made an effort to dismantle it. When a large enough segment of the male population totally turns their backs on them and let them truly suffer for quite a while, then they may actually change their ways. I think it was Oscar Wilde who said something like "unfortunately, the only thing women truly understand is cruelty and suffering." As long as they are living cushy lives, they will never change.

Wow dude, you couldn't have made a worse call on this one.

Shoe's audience has less than zero interest in understanding manosphere issues, since doing so would amount to willingly looking into Dorian Gray's mirror and accepting the ugly truth. You haven't yet understood this. It's not that Progressives don't understand, it's that it's in their interests to not only ignore the issues, but to be actively hostile towards them.

Your approach is the MRA approach, and that has not worked, nor will it ever work. But no-one's stopping you from trying.

I think you are simping for her. Of course she’s coming for pearly things she’s coming for her bank account. Controlled opposition must cycle out to keep the masses occupied.

Oh please she’s in it for money. Women don’t care about what she says because they are too busy sleeping around. Only incels would listen to her because they hope they will sleep with her.